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The demos of both Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 and FIFA 11 are both released today. This means we get to fight all over again over which is the best soccer sim on the planet. Last year's match-up proved to be a bit of a non-event given that the improvements made to FIFA 10 pushed it so clearly ahead of the floundering PES 2010.

Thankfully, console football's biggest rivalry has just got interesting again. The new version of Pro Evolution Soccer is a marked improvement over the last attempt. EA has a few tricks of its own though, and FIFA 11 is more polished than it’s ever been. Here are my thoughts so far, having played both demos.

Gameplay

Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

I’d have to say that the gameplay refinements are much more noticeable in the leap from PES 2010 to PES 2011 than they are between FIFAs 10 and 11. This is almost certainly because Pro Evolution had way more to fix, of course.Pro Evo 2011 feels almost like an entirely new game, when compared with the last version. The sluggishness, over-automation, and general lack of control that blighted the last version have been more or less eradicated by the overhauled game engine in PES 2011.

Passing has been tweaked to allow you to measure balls more precisely. A power meter now appears when passing that lets you move the ball around with pinpoint accuracy, rather than the old way where the ball seemed to get magnetized to the nearest player’s foot.

PES 2011 now gives you more control over your defense. Gone is the horrible AI whereby defenders would all automatically hone in on an attacker (even the ones you weren’t controlling). The intelligent new system now allows you to decide exactly when to bring the defense up, when to apply pressure and when to hang back.

PES gameplay

Pulling off tricks is now a much finer art in Pro Evolution 2011. There are lots of new flicks, tricks and special moves to try out. The best thing is, you can assign these yourself to certain button combos, so you’ve got your favorite ones ready at any time.

The gameplay in Pro Evo could still be better. For example, the AI of the computer opponent is still frustratingly predictable. This means that it becomes very easy to beat once you’ve played a few games.

FIFA 11

The new gameplay features in FIFA are more subtle than they are in Pro Evo, but they really help to add polish and class to the game.

Perhaps the two biggest innovations are Personality+ and 360-degree jostling. Personality+ is a system whereby players move and behave as they do in real life. This means, for example, that the ball will stick to Lionel Messi’s foot like glue, Wayne Rooney will run around like a chicken after loose balls, and Didier Drogba will score lots and lots of goals.

The new 360-degree jostling makes defending more realistic. A player is now able to hold off an opposing player by backing into him and swivelling around to try to gain space to move away with the ball or pick out a pass.

Handballs can be switched on in FIFA 11, adding a new element of excitement to the game. It seems that you can’t handle the ball on purpose, but occasionally a defender will automatically stick out his hand to stop a shot or a pass. This can be frustrating at times, but, of course, it could sometimes save your skin.Another interesting innovation in FIFA 11 is the ability to control the goalkeeper, which adds a new dimension into the gameplay. In general, keeper AI has been improved to make them more fallible and to give them characteristics of their real life equivalents.

One of the changes we didn’t like is the new penalty kick system, which is based around a power-bar. This feels very clunky and unresponsive and spoils what was a perfectly good system before.

Graphics and presentation

Pro Evolution

Animations of both player and ball have been improved in PES 2011. Player movements are slicker and the way they run feels more lifelike. The flight of the ball is much more realistic and it carries more accurately than the 2010 version.

Up close, the player likenesses are better than they were, although the facial expressions still need some more work. Every time a player opens his mouth and I see his chewing gum smile, it reminds me of how much slicker the rendering of the players in FIFA really is.

The last release of Pro Evolution saw some welcome improvements to the menu system. This time, PES 2011 goes even further, adopting a cool look interface and delivering a formation and tactics menu that actually makes sense.

FIFA

Although in-game graphics and animation don’t appear to have changed much, the up-close face detail in FIFA 11 is much improved. Likenesses are even more realistic and the wow factor is heightened by the fact that facial expressions now differ from player to player, adding more character to the matches.

In terms of audio, FIFA 11 is ahead of Pro Evo. The in-game commentary in the latest game is fantastic, and feels much more ad-libbed than the rather wooden chat of previous versions. The commentators make astute observations in the right places and regularly make conversation about specific players or teams, which gives FIFA 11 a real TV feel.

I love the fact that you can now add your own crowd chants to the game. You can either record your own or use real-life audio footage of fans singing your team’s songs. You’re even able to change the music that the players walk on and off the field to.

Game modes

Pro Evolution

Although the demos of both games are restricted to exhibition matches featuring a small selection of teams, we already know more or less what game modes will be in the final versions.

Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 retains the Champions League and Europea League modes, adding with it the Copa Libertadores and the UEFA Super Cup. Much more tantalising though is the proposed online Master League mode, which will allow you to assemble your own teams then compete in real time leagues with others online. Online has traditionally been woeful in PES, so this could be the catalyst the game needs to improve in this area.

PES 2011 also boasts a new stadium editor, team editor, and an Extras section where you can get access new match balls and accessories for your players. As a result, you can play as a team of dogs running around after a barrel. If you want to.

FIFA

FIFA 11 still has about a million different officially licensed leagues to play in, from La Liga in Spain to the Irish Premier League, as well as exhibitions, training modes and the Be a Pro.

The one big change is to the Manager mode, which is now known as Career mode. This is apparently a mixture between Manager and Be a Pro, allowing you to start off as a player then move to become a player coach, then a fully fledged manager, as your career progresses.

Conclusion

As a die-hard Pro Evolution fan, I’m very pleased that the game I know and love is becoming fun to play again. The new game is almost unrecognizable to PES 2010, so Konami has clearly tried to forget about that sorry chapter in the history of the game. Pro Evo still isn’t perfect though. Not all of the AI has been corrected, and I’m not convinced that PES’s car crash of an online mode can be rescued just with online Master League.

EA was starting from a much more comfortable position, in that FIFA 10 was already a consummate product. So, instead of having to make major overhauls, the developer’s job has been largely one of refinement. The new intelligent player likenesses and the intricacies of its gameplay make it a near-perfect simulation of football.

Does this make FIFA 11 the best game out of the two? Probably, yes. But I think FIFA still lacks some of the charm and cuteness of Pro Evo. Just as the last couple of times I’ll be buying PES first, wanting to like it so much that I refuse to get FIFA, then getting FIFA, realising that it’s better and not going back to PES, then feeling bad about tossing my trusty old favorite aside. I feel a bit like the kid in Toy Story.

Commented

  • Fernando |
    15/09/10
    Fernando

    Agree woth your comments, i am a pes lover since winning eleven editions, however got into fifa 2009, 2010 and wc 2010. The reassons were 2 ,connectity and bad animations. I had a test of fifa 2011 demo and i might add that is the pure esence of football, the way player move and play is like beeing on the tv and forgeting that the console is on. Pes 2011 demos is better than before, i get that sence of liberty that on fifa dont have, but i am very nervious about connectivity. Fifa is the game to go for at time of doing shoping, but for having real fun creating your own gameplay is pes.

    I will wait until some shops have both for testing and base on the experience and complains on forums i will make my move.

  • Nemanja |
    15/09/10
    Nemanja

    FIFA IS THE BEST!!!

  • me n u |
    15/09/10
    me n u

    jggddgh

  • Hunter Williams |
    15/09/10
    Hunter Williams

    Can you play be a goalkeeper in FIFA 11

  • Chris |
    15/09/10
    Chris

    I have just downloaded and played a couple of games on the demos of both Fifa 11 and Pro Evo 11. I may be biased as I have always been a PES fan and ISS before that, but found the playability of pro far far better than that of Fifa. I have the last 3 editions of Fifa cos PES 2008 was so crap I had to try them out and I do think they are OK but very limited and for some reason there seems to be too much congestion, I think maybe the pitch is too small. Thsi hasn't changed on the new Fifa and long balls are still impossible, whilst the 360 passing is a load of rubbish, the ball just still goes to the nearest man. Pro however made me feel in total control of my passes. I genuinely believed I could play a 50 yard crossfield ball into the corner for my winger to chase and that he would get there, he didnt always but he always went for it and at least put the full back under pressure. Don't know bout the full games but from the demo alone Pro Evo 11 is streets ahead of Fifa

  • Hunter Williams |
    15/09/10
    Hunter Williams

    THAT'S IN AUTOMATIC FIFA options you can change it to mauall

  • Hunter Williams |
    15/09/10
    Hunter Williams

    By the looks PES 2011 graphics look crap

  • Jay |
    16/09/10
    Jay

    For me I don't like the new pes when it comes to presentation. The drag drop menus are slap dash. But obviously for pick up play then pes is still no1.

    But bar that it really isn't even a patch on FIFA now in terms of simulation. There hasn't been major changes but because the unit has been polished it does actually cause a big change in dynamic. Players control balls like in real life, shooting is now realistic (in animation), tricks are 'now perfectly flawed in that you won't do a chop without the ball bobbling.

    It's a far more true to life game than what's been in the football genre. The problem is that the pes fans won't like it due to it having the arcadey pick up and play factor about it.

  • Siddesh |
    16/09/10
    Siddesh

    Very honest, objective opinion bro. Just played both demos and i feel the same way too. Fifa takes another year, but PES is stepping in the right direction. Soon, maybe in 2-3 years time PES could be on top of the football sim world. Till then my money goes to FIFA 11.

  • Gary |
    16/09/10
    Gary

    pes sucks.

  • wick |
    16/09/10
    wick

    6 games of each demo so far and i have to say that i think Fifa has just got the edge on PES 11 this year. Die hard fan of pes, but i think fifa might have taken the crown once again 3rd year running...just. PES 11 has improved alot more than fifa, but still my lack a certain smoothness that fifa retains. Some parts of pes11 look real sweet, some first time touches look pretty good. you can tell fifa hasn't changed the way the game is played, but, its been polished off, passes are better, over the top through balls are more controlled and realistic, scored a few crackers so far from likes of lampard and drogba which wouldn't happen in fifa10. i like it how you have to build up play to attack now rather than diect ping pong passing up field. Imppressed with both. I can easily play PES all night if i had both games, havent said that for a few years. But fifa still just has it for me.

  • sayonara |
    16/09/10
    sayonara

    matekunasae kimigayo

  • Gravid86 |
    16/09/10
    Gravid86

    Last year I switched to Fifa 10 simply because it was head & shoulders above Pro evo plus it had every thing you could ask for with regards to leagues,cups,clubs and real named players. But after a year playing Fifa 10 I have got-in sick of the free kicks (Which no matter what player is hitting the free kick it will be hit as if Beckham poised that player just to hit the free kick and it WILL most of time fly in) and the driving half way line shots from left & right backs that fly straight into the top corner, I mean there that fast the camera can't even keep up with the ball, I find myself doing it all the time even if am getting beat online I'll let one of them shots fly and know that there's a good chance I'll score, and the keepers my god they just rush of the line for the fun of it and every time it will result in the keeper getting chipped but,even though most of these problems are in Fifa 10 I can see Fifa 11 having similar problems. I just thank konami for stepping up and making what I feel is a class game again in the form of PES 2011, I feel ashamed I ever defected to Fifa a game that doesn't require much skill to play. It's almost like an arcade game to me, were as PES you need more of a football brain to play the game with any success and in that comes the reward for me. PES 2011 is the game (in my opinion) that will test your defending,passing and attacking skills, am also loving the passing in PES 2011 even though you can in Fifa switch to manual passing, but to me Fifa's manual passing is too manual (if you can understand what I mean) were as PES Passing has hit the sweet spot between manual and semi auto passing. So I think with great delight I will be buy Pro evo with the realistic view that there may well be parts of the game I don't love but knowing I can live with the little problems and even finding ways around them anyway I've had my say roll on 8th October :-)

  • MichaelMC17 |
    16/09/10
    MichaelMC17

    i think we are all among the same opinion. PES has improved a hell of a lot! which makes me happy because the PS2 days of pro evo 5 and pro evo 6 are coming back. HOWEVER, Fifa still has the cutting edge when it comes to overall gameplay. I think if Konami keep improving on this title with improved AI next year then it could be even closer battle in coming years. I will be purchasing both... because.. why not?

  • MichaelMC17 |
    16/09/10
    MichaelMC17

    Gravid86... i dont think you could be any more correct pal. i strongly believe that if fifa did not have all the licenses and pro did.. everyone would buy PES. The licensing is the difference... people want realism.

  • sasp |
    16/09/10
    sasp

    can u create players and teams in fifa2011??

  • MichaelMC17 |
    16/09/10
    MichaelMC17

    Yes on the online creation centre.

  • Nascar |
    16/09/10
    Nascar

    I've downloaded the two demos, it's FIFA 11 victory hands down. How fluid FIFA has been the past year is unbelievable. PES 2011 is a million miles better than last year. PES 4 has to be the best football/soccer game ever on the old generation consoles (PS2/Xbox) however, the current generation (PS3/Xbox360/Wii) EA has decided to rip-off Konami and then improve on that. The past four versions of FIFA has shown EA's ability to grow and develop, Konami have wasted years and still lag behind- the players still move in an eight directional form!! Konami have not been faithful to their fans, i can appreciate the saying "If it aint broke, don't fix it" but surely sales figures alone should standout as the driving force to develop and achieve the true potential of PES. I know this may read like a rant but FIFA is to football/soccer games what the iPhone is to mobile/cellular phones- pretentious and avant-garde (if those two words can be used in the same sentence).

  • bully2100 |
    16/09/10
    bully2100

    Hi all , i have been a lover of iss/pes but pes has become worse and worse, not really offline although it has had its moments in the last few years but mainly online, which is an area noone can test with a demo, and konami no it. The new pes is better that 10, but the last couple of years i have regretted the purchase due to online play being basically "unplayable" (and no, its nothing to do with me/my pc/my internet connection) :-)

    My sons have a ps3 and play Fifa 10 / WC and as a hater of Fifa for over 20years i must admit its got the upperhand on pes (not that i can hold thos ps pads!). Fifa10 for pc was a 10min piss poor port but fifa11 for pc im very impressed with , its more/less fifa10 for the console. so now its decision time :-) can anyone tell me tho what FIFA11 for pc will be like online. am i going to be connecting to a central server in Japan just to play my next door neighbour? :-), and also, can i manually control the keeper in fifa like a player? or is it just bring him out?

  • James Thornton |
    16/09/10
    James Thornton

    No bully, you can properly bring out the keeper as a normal player, I believe. The option is disabled in the demo but in the pre-match warm up bit he is completely controllable. It's an interesting concept and one i haven't seen in a football game for a loooong time.

  • australia |
    16/09/10
    australia

    i download both fifa 11 and pes11 , for all your PES fans out there keep dreaming becuase it will never be as good as FIFA, ea sports did a really good job on fifa 11 and they will allways be number one in sports games, PES is good for kids who just learn how to hold the controle in there hands , so EA SPORTS THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ANOTHER TOP CLASS FIFA

  • Kieron |
    16/09/10
    Kieron

    I feel pes just just has the upper hand. Although graphics and real life ammination is better on FIFA, pes gameplay is slighlty more realistic. With the 360 tackling for defenders on FIFA, puyol or ferdinand are always going to tackle you. Pes is slightly more sluggish making you more involved and thinking more. Got both demos and played pes more. I feel FIFA have come slightly complacent knowing they didn't need to change much therefore ur just getting a slighlty bettet FIFA 10. As for the goalkeeper mode, I firmly belive after a few goes u will get bored. FIFA pens are also bad. Pes 8/10!! FIFA 7/10

  • bully2100 |
    16/09/10
    bully2100

    pes2010 , and previous versions, possibly pre 2005(i think) you could/can select the keeper as a player, but not online in 2010 which kinda renders it useless tbh. dont know what the penalties are like in pes but cant be any worse that 2010 :-( ?

  • saood |
    16/09/10
    saood

    like most of u guys i agree that fifa is just a little better but here in Bahrain the price difference is huge between fifa and pespes 2010 costs about 80$ but fifa world cup costed about 110$ so i would rather buy the pes game but since i have the moey ill buy both :D

  • Domenico |
    17/09/10
    Domenico

    Downloaded and tried (many games) both the demos... Last year I've bought PES for PC and FIFA for PS3... I've to say that FIFA was undoubtly more realistic in moves and many more other components, but the lack of possibility to score in FIFA with head shots from crosses or with shoots from outside the area was making it quite frustrating/boring... My opinion is that FIFA 11 has not changed a lot, and I'm still not understanding why the passages are always so slow... I tried both assisted and manual pass mode, but in the first I can't feel enough freedom, while in the second I can't feel any difference between using a player like Iniesta or like Khedira (to make an example)... Result is that with a team like Barcellona I can't express the TIKI-TAKA, or the quickness of the players, since I have the sensations that FIFA always favourites the fisical players like Drogba... PES is completly different, it misses the fluidity of FIFA and defensors are missing slightly too often the ball, but playing with Barcellona is wonderfull, since passes with Iniesta or Xavi are always creating troubles to defences... Playing with Bayern is also a lot of fun since with Robben, Ribery and Klose is quite easy to score with head shots... My preference therefore goes to PES, essentially because I can score goals like the first or the third goals Barcellona scored against Panathinaikos (which were incredibly awesome!) or in thousands of different ways...

  • Mr.Tefa |
    17/09/10
    Mr.Tefa

    PES IS THE BEST

    WHEN I PLAY I FEEL pleasure abnormal

  • i am dubers (xbl gt) |
    17/09/10
    i am dubers (xbl gt)

    ive been playing fifa since fifa international soccer on the snes but went over to pes when pes5 came out. i stuck with it until pes 2008 but in 2009 i got my 360 and went for fifa 09 since i'd heard some bad stuff about the next gen pes. downloaded both demos last night, had one game of fifa and felt like the players were a bit too glidey when they run, kinda like they run on ice... had 3 games on pes and im thinking its the game for me this year. the passing has a good feel and i like the power bar for passing. master league online sounds like the best thing i've ever heard of so i'm really hoping they sort out the connectivity.

    as for the be a keeper thing, i cant see it being that enjoyable just standing in front of the goal, waiting for the other team to attack. if you are playing for a decent team, you wont have much to do, if you play for a bad team, you'll have more fun but the AI wont score so much so either way i can see it being kinda lame. and personality+ is just a new name for "player-stats-change-between-games" exactly as they have done for years. give it a fancy name and call it a "new feature".

    another reason to lean more towards pes... to me, other than online, manager mode is my mode of choice. fifa 11 has combined the fun-for-a-while-but-gets-boring be a pro mode with manager mode. if theres a choice then fine but if you start as a player and then after a few seasons can become a manager then its gonna be lame. also, if its anything like fifa 10, the manager mode will be so broken the save file will corrupt after 2 seasons or you'll change club and get £2,000,000,000 in debt and EA will deny it and refuse to patch it...

    rant over hehe!

    fifa 11 - 7/10. i like it but not enough to buy it. pes 2011 - 8.5/10. big improvements over last years version imo. if they pull off online master league with good connectivity, then +1 to the score :)

  • Fernando |
    17/09/10
    Fernando

    I had played more than 30 games on each of the demos, when i open fifa i get surprise by the good looking of the graphics and animations over and over again, however the game is bad, the defense is too easy to control and press with the X button, the spaces are only opened to dribbling that is out of the normality, you have to sprint too much to get enought space to play a little fotball and on kicking there is no real control of were the ball is heading both manual and automatic, there is also a lack of space during centers and long balls. On pes the menus have been polished, the fact of releasing a multiplayer online league is attractive, the new licenses make the tittle more serious, however on fifa you can create your own tournaments too. Pes once openeded reflex the entity of the developers (footy geeks), actually the zoom on camera during gameplay shows you how important is the game (you can only see very much the pitch), the control and caractheristics of iss, winning eleven and pes 5 are there, that arcade for some, but complete control of the game is back. Long passes, low short passes and added to to equation a lot of sudden turns and 1 to 1 wall actions that make the game more real than fifa, the players look in instances sliding on ice instead of running over the field, but i believe this type of issue will be improved. The only thing that will define the purchase of PeS, will be the connectivity, if there is lag or poor online services, bye bye any of the two tittles.

  • Christian Galea |
    17/09/10
    Christian Galea

    I don't get what die-hard football fans get about Fifa. The game is just to easy and predictable PES has always been a cut above the rest since the days of ISS PRO. Its true Pes could get a few more rights but Graphics and game play go to Pes always in my opinion.

  • bully2100 |
    17/09/10
    bully2100

    fifa 11 - 7/10. i like it but not enough to buy it. agree, but its also heap, so im still not sure lol

    pes 2011 - 8.5/10. big improvements over last years version, if any of it works good online, itll be a bonus.

    yes its gotta work this year online, which you/i will not know until we have shelled out money for, granted its less that a £score but im getting sick of it now :-)

  • Zain |
    17/09/10
    Zain

    FIFA is the best and will be the best

  • louden1987 |
    17/09/10
    louden1987

    I have to say after playing both demo's that pes 2011 takes the title back this year. Fifa 11 is good and i do like the become a pro GOALKEEPER mode, but the game play and graphics look the exact same as FIFA 10 and the game play is very predictable. PES 2011 has brought back some of its PES "Magic" and looks and plays brilliant. The way the players move and the power bar for more accurate passing is a big plus. The 1 downfall from both demos is the penalties. I am looking forward to the online master league but as we know in the past PES online has not been the greatest, so we will have to wait and see if this has been improved.

  • bully2100 |
    17/09/10
    bully2100

    fifa is easy yes, unless manual pass etc is selected, i wonder if online there are game options for manual passing etc only, otherwise noone will use it and there will a distinct advantage to the auto user if playing a manual user. in iss using manual passing and manual select and manual goal keeper v 2p i def had an advantage but only because i had mastered it :-) im a D pad user tbh cant get use to the thumb stick for running / shooting sad i know, but i didnt have thumbstick on nes - snes etc lol.. i won a UK comp at ISS(CVG Magazine) a long time ago.

  • facer |
    17/09/10
    facer

    Pes is king, really enjoyed some of the comments here about how pro is the better game because its so true, cant understand ANYONE thinking fifa is better.

    PES 2011 will show everyone whats no.1 but those fifa fans wont even try playing it which is a pity.

  • Parishrut Pandey |
    17/09/10
    Parishrut Pandey

    I was always looking for such a clear descriptions and comments on both the games, offering a fair choice. Whenever I attempted to find a nice video comparison of both games, there was always Bias to either of the games. I just thought to google it, and luckily came across this page. The features of both the games have been described clearly and comments have been of people who have played BOTH the games. In 2007, my father gave me FIFA 07 as a birthday gift, thats when I started to take interest in soccer. I thought FIFA is the only, only good game of soccer and proceeded to fifa 08 in 2008. But one of my friends then showed me PES on his PC and I thought to try it. Such a strong affection to the game has developed since then. PES really is a game having a totally different feel, the charm. I have a PC, and on PC PES is way better, yet I want to argue on such topics, even after not having XBOX because of the love for the game. But seriously, I have watched the gameplay videos of FIFA and I have seen how much more realistic is the gameplay. Every animation is so accurate in the game. This page was really helpful to differentiate between the two games. I will stick to PES, and I strongly believe, it would not be far that PES becomes the best football game, way ahead of FIFA.

  • Jer |
    17/09/10
    Jer

    Thanks for the comparison. I have a hard time figuring out which one to get. PES6 was my first real introduction to Pro Evo series and I loved it. It was simply the best football game I had ever played. It was way ahead of FIFA. I really had the feeling I was playing a game of football.

    But FIFA has changed and FIFA 10 was great.

    I see some people comment that the gameplay is exactly the same. I have to disagree. Yes, it still feels a lot like FIFA 10 (which is not bad), but the passing system has changed making it much more realistic and challenging (or difficult for the button bashers). People saying the passing is simple in FIFA are speaking about FIFA 10, not the new one.

    I will play the PES demo tonight. Almost can't wait.

    And then in de following days I have to make my mind up.

  • Edgar |
    17/09/10
    Edgar

    I'm a PES fan and I have been playing it since WE 5. I played the DEMO os PES 2011 last night and I had the feeling that this year is way better but it still a bit "stuck"for me, almost every time the players came closer I have a freekick... it is a bit boring for me. Did you felt this too? Another thing that I don't know is if FIFA 11 was any mode similar to the Master League Mode. (that you can form your team and grow the skills of all your players). Can you guys help me with this?

    Thanks

  • JHM |
    18/09/10
    JHM

    I have played both demo's twice and pes 3 times now. Maybe it's because I have never played fifa, but I hate to play with the lift analog stick. I prefer the up,down,left,right buttons (maybe because I'm used to that). I would love to buy Fifa, but something is holding me back, it just can't seem to get me. The gameplay of PES still is PES gameplay but in a complete new way of play. I guess I love the arcade element in PES.

    A game can't be realistic when you play for 10 min, if you want a sim you have to play 2 x 45 min.

    What I noticed is that PES on top player is to easy. Fifa was a lot harder, maybe because I'm used to the PES gameplay.

    I will get PES again, maybe because I love PES and I love the arcade element.

    Good luck to what game you choose. I think you can't go wrong, it's just what you like better.

    JHM

  • BenLaDen |
    19/09/10
    BenLaDen

    i like Fifa 2011 with the vibration option when u have xbox 360 controller you feel the play :) graphics better then PES ...the Pc version it's the same Xbox360 version that's mean fifa will make history on this year

  • shaolinplayer |
    19/09/10
    shaolinplayer

    "One of the changes we didn’t like is the new penalty kick system, which is based around a power-bar. This feels very clunky and unresponsive and spoils what was a perfectly good system before."

    this isn't right. it's not a powerbar in the middle, it's an confident meter. When you hit it in the green zone, your probably sure that the shot is hit well, depending on how much power you give and how much it's aimed in the bottem or upper corners of the goal. This gives more realism to the game, because in real-life when you take a penalty your confident has ups and downs. when your confident it's pretty sure you hit the ball right, it's only up to your skills if it's going in the right corner with the right speed.

  • nentautako |
    21/09/10
    nentautako

    just like last year and the year before.... i will buy both. the point is which one gonna be uninstalled first cause i'm a racing game addicted....

  • Valerino |
    21/09/10
    Valerino

    Its hard to say but i'd play both demos n i wud like to say tat congrate to FIFA 11. They out do themselves... when i play... i tot i was wtchin the real game on TV... is tat gud... PES11 is gud bt stil hv the same movemen... i'm a fan of PES since i was little cuz the realism of the game play... bt now... FIFA is goin ahead of PES...

  • Faysal |
    22/09/10
    Faysal

    Hi guys,

    After playing almost every game from EA and KONAMI since 98, I will have to admit that ISS/PES was,is an will be the better game in terms of gameplay, environment and AI.

    It's just the licenses that makes FIFA a realistic game, but only i terms of real teams and players.

    "" Licensing is the difference… ""

    In terms of gameplay, AI or even defending, passing, attacking and scoring goals it is way too behind PES.

    And thats a fact.

  • Faysal |
    22/09/10
    Faysal

    Hi guys,

    After playing almost every game from EA and KONAMI since 98, I will have to admit that ISS/PES was,is and will be the better game in terms of gameplay, environment and AI.

    It's just the licenses that makes FIFA a realistic game, but only i terms of real teams and players.

    "" Licensing is the difference… ""

    In terms of gameplay, AI or even defending, passing, attacking and scoring goals it is way too behind PES.

    And thats a fact.

  • Faysal |
    22/09/10
    Faysal

    Guys!

    Dont be confused.

    The reason for posting two times is to make it clear that PES is two times better than FIFA.

  • dude with a gun |
    23/09/10
    dude with a gun

    FIFA fanaticss are like Apple fanboys. no matter how good the product has become it will always be ''FIFA RULZ" and "PES ISA GAYZ" and BS like that. Same goes with PES fanatics who support the brand even when PES was way past it's hay day in terms of innovative gameplay. But after playing PES 2011 i would say that they got something to boast about but FIFA takes the cake in graphics. There are always two sides of a coin, there are players who care more about the gameplay and there are the ones that want the package now fully loaded and packed and them denial comes in and tells them that that package is the best even though it may appear so where as in reality it's just controlling the market base on the power of the media.

    Damn, you FIFA, not you EA, i mean FIFA. Anyway, PES is Linux and EA FIFA 2011 is Windows/Apple because EA has the cash to splash like crazy where as PES' budget seemingly looks less. So umh, "FIFA iz suxz" LOL.

  • rodneyDude |
    23/09/10
    rodneyDude

    I don't care, i will NOT choose a side and like Obama, if i don't have a proper solution to which brand is better, i will now play solitaire and present it to both parties to play also now rendering both sides from the happiness they desire.

  • Faysal |
    23/09/10
    Faysal

    @rodneyDude

    Even i am NOT choosing a side. I am just putting the reality in front of everyone.

    Coz this is a simulation game and needs to show reality in terms of gameplay.

    Teams and players could be added through patches. But the thing that matters is the gameplay and AI which makes it a complete Soccer/Football game than just a licensed game with loads of crap.

  • luke younger |
    23/09/10
    luke younger

    hello, i ditched PES last year on the first day of buying it, i have always been pro evo becuase the game play was always miles better than fifa. I played fifa and have enjoyed the year of fifa. But when i think back, master league days were brill! i want pro evo back. Someone mentioned they feel disgusted that they dropped pro for fifa in the first place (which actually did need to be done), i feel bad 2. i dont care if online is crap, master league offline was mint. From these comments sounds like pro is back. played the fifa demo which i personally think game play isnt good. Defending is easy, passing is crap, shooting is wierdly crap. im going to download pro demo tonight!!!! oh yessss. PS i need a bird haha

  • Ninjajapseye, challenge me if u dare 360 |
    23/09/10
    Ninjajapseye, challenge me if u dare 360

    It's true, pes 2010 was a let down but they tweaked a few things with updates and the game did slightly improve, I played FIFA 99 on the ps1 and became a master at it, my friends tried to convert me to iss but I was having none of it until I experienced pro 4, then my life changed, I love pro and will never leave the league of pes, to play pro evo you need skill and passion, online against other top players the heart raises and the pressure is on, around a friends house and he boosts of his FIFA skills on the ps3 and slips it on, I warn him I have nt played for along time and let the game begin, whoop him 7- NIL, FIFA is a joke, a kids game, you can be 6yrs old and be good, pro evo is for men so as they say, pro vs FIFA = men vs BOYS

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